tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post6165377650893937935..comments2023-12-05T10:19:00.186-06:00Comments on Goats in the Garden: Is Your Family Dog Leading A Double Life?Jenniferhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17664824920459341153noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-68966249326570379122010-07-14T15:16:42.315-05:002010-07-14T15:16:42.315-05:00I agree. More people in the country should use dog...I agree. More people in the country should use dog containment systems, such as wireless fences. I just started using Havahart's Radial-Shape Wireless Dog Fence. It was really easy set up and works on two dogs.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04935834414730782217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-82882978776489226152010-05-24T12:33:41.824-05:002010-05-24T12:33:41.824-05:00I am so sorry to hear about the goats that you los...I am so sorry to hear about the goats that you lost ChrisP. You have some very good advice because sometimes it is not just neighbors dogs that need to be watched around goats and it is true that a dog in a pack of other dogs might do things he would not normally do on his own.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17664824920459341153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-58252227369393301262010-05-23T20:11:37.535-05:002010-05-23T20:11:37.535-05:00Total stupid act on my part just cost us 6 goats. ...Total stupid act on my part just cost us 6 goats. And I do not know which of MY OWN DOGS to get rid of! <br />We just got a 12 goats, to range the 10 acres of weeds. Pyraneese was in heaven to have a job, young border a bit skittish, lab tried to be side kick for Pyraneese, and shepherd mix seemed to be the same. <br />We left for quick trip, less than 24 hours, came back and 6 of the goats, young ones and females are all dead in various places. The meanest female alive her baby and the males. <br />The dead goats were not mauled, all looked like they were strangled, and a couple did have one or two punctures in their necks. <br />Now what to do? We will sell all the goats we have now ASAP, and if we figure out which dog did this remove it. But I also wonder if one started it and then they 'packed out? <br /> Totally blown away by this. I thought I knew the dogs.. These are my own, and 2 are bred for this. <br /> Keep your dogs in you sights always!ChrisPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18118351122708751777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-77251363222568284672010-04-28T09:33:48.927-05:002010-04-28T09:33:48.927-05:00It is the owner's responsibility to know where...It is the owner's responsibility to know where his animals are and what they are up to. If a human is not willing to take that responsibility, either they do not deserve to have a dog, or they must be willing to live up to the consequences of their behavior. However, a fine and a calling out, does not make up the loss of livestock, be it chickens or goats or anything else.<br />I get angry about the people who walk out here just so their dogs can poop in my field. If their dog harmed one of my animals, it may not be the dog I shoot.<br />Unfortunately, once a dog has the experience of chasing or killing, the behavior is more likely to be repeated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-87631270329896210502010-04-09T15:03:21.884-05:002010-04-09T15:03:21.884-05:00Amen. We've been on our farm with quite a gro...Amen. We've been on our farm with quite a growing menagerie now for almost a year and are thankful for sturdy fences and big white guard dogs, who let coyotes and stray dogs alke know to stay away. One of my biggest nightmares is something happening to our farm residents. Ken and Mary of Fancy Fibers FarmKen and Mary of Fancy Fibers Farmhttp://www.fancyfibers.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-11652206207223142322010-04-09T00:30:14.745-05:002010-04-09T00:30:14.745-05:00we had two more dog attacks this week. think we in...we had two more dog attacks this week. think we interrupted the first one, but they still killed one of our kids. the second attack we caught them in the act and lets just say one of them won't bother anyone's animals anymore, but the goat they attacked died today from shock i think. not sure... i did see the other dog that got away and am going to talk to the neighbor asap. <br /><br />people just dont get it...Jasonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-43970242484561827822010-04-08T08:51:05.838-05:002010-04-08T08:51:05.838-05:00Living in a very rural area, with not many neighbo...Living in a very rural area, with not many neighbors or their dogs we still have a serious dog problem. Without proper animal shelters in our area people just dump their unwanted pets out. The dogs will band together to form very dangerous dog packs. One day I had a goat missing and found him down by the creek. I didn't know a pack of 6 or more dogs were also down there. One came running from the dead goat (they had killed) toward me. Luckily BoDog was with me and took over. He knocked down that dog, then one more that came running out. The others ran under the fence they had dug under to get in.<br />So it isn't only the animals in danger it is the people also.<br /><br />Great post.<br />PamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-1318373225715860332010-04-08T07:25:10.124-05:002010-04-08T07:25:10.124-05:00I agree 100% with you! I have had to deal with peo...I agree 100% with you! I have had to deal with peoples dogs that roamed the country side as well as bulls and cows.<br /> Just because you live in the country doesnt mean your animals can roam free. I had neighbor dogs that woudl come and eat my dogs food. Chase my chickens and cause chaos... Then the same neighbor had the gall to accuse my dog of killing her chickens. But Mine had been tied up and not loose for several days. Come to find out it was her grandson's dog on the other side of me. <br /> One of the places we lived had packs of dogs that had been dumped. It took about 2 months but we were able to get all of them. And no we weren't able to take them to a shelter as they had went wild and were running in packs.<br /> People don't realize how much damage a dog can do. If its causing trouble I usually apply the 3 S's shoot,shovel and shutup..Toniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09223141257252367520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-14210227156856797922010-04-07T17:07:27.279-05:002010-04-07T17:07:27.279-05:00I'm with you 100% on this topic. Three of our...I'm with you 100% on this topic. Three of our sheep came from a flock that had been decimated by a pack of 3 Saint Bernard dogs. My dog, a rescued greyhound, is an indoor dog and is let out into his own fenced area. He happens to be petrified if there are chickens on the other side of his fence and whines to come in. He's also scared of box elder bugs though, so he's a bit of a wimp. Even though we live in a rural area, I see no reason that my dog should roam free, for his safety as well as for the safety of other animals. All animal owners need to be responsible for all their animals - livestock and pets. Kudos to you for raising the issue.Claire MWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02603169881463831299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-76997554952314548322010-04-07T13:36:29.832-05:002010-04-07T13:36:29.832-05:00I hate it when people allow their dogs to run loos...I hate it when people allow their dogs to run loose! Last year we had a whole bunch of chickens killed by a couple dogs running around!Nancy M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00890420576437109817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-84082544601591263952010-04-07T09:54:50.975-05:002010-04-07T09:54:50.975-05:00I was also told by a neighbor that it was my respo...I was also told by a neighbor that it was my responsibility to keep her dogs off my farm...what the heck! And no it isn't just big dogs, their Chihuahua terrorizes my animals and although hasn't killed anything, plucks and injures my chickens.<br />I think someone said that if your neighbor's dog is chasing your livestock, shoot it, bury it and then help the neighbor look for his dog.goatgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05753367360714853700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-77762639513589648022010-04-07T08:18:55.485-05:002010-04-07T08:18:55.485-05:00Amen sister!!!Amen sister!!!Rose's Goatsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-49230129514015342992010-04-07T00:45:07.297-05:002010-04-07T00:45:07.297-05:00It's a matter of responsible dog ownership. Ba...It's a matter of responsible dog ownership. Back in the mid 70's I worked at a TV station in Wichita and my supervisor was doing a documentary on dog packs that were terrorizing the town. These were stray domestic dogs that gathered together in a pack and were attacking other animals and children. Being domestic they do not have the fear of people that wild animals have making them more dangerous than wild animals. One of the sadest days for me was when a dog pack got into Cowtown and killed the donkey, Tag-a-long, that had lived in Cowtown for many years. The donkey had been there when I was a Girls Scout Guide at Cowtown for two summers. Later in life I had the occasion to read the riot act to a neighbor that I found out was dumping unwanted dogs in the country. I offered to shoot any unwanted dogs for her, rather than have her turn them loose for some farmer to have to kill. :(Moonshadowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10620199622292684334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-75331563339150412602010-04-07T00:30:22.847-05:002010-04-07T00:30:22.847-05:00OH! Poor Trouble!! I'm glad she survived! ...OH! Poor Trouble!! I'm glad she survived! <br />You know, I have never been a gun owner, but I say shoot any dog that comes on your property!<br /><br />Years ago a dog (poodle) from down the block came running into our yard and bit my little girl. She was only 7 or 8 at the time. I was furious!!!GardenOfDaisieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03110646840082802721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-85754749496350768762010-04-06T23:36:44.126-05:002010-04-06T23:36:44.126-05:00Important topic. Growing up on a farm I witnessed...Important topic. Growing up on a farm I witnessed some roving bands of dogs--very dangerous. Everyone needs to take responsibility for his/her pet.Bossy Bettyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12568355839499622409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-71780176172848396502010-04-06T19:39:12.068-05:002010-04-06T19:39:12.068-05:00Shoot, shovel and shut up -- that's what my fr...Shoot, shovel and shut up -- that's what my friend says. I'd add, shrug, if anyone brings up the issue to you. We had dogs kill some chickens. I caught them the first time. They were back again 2 weeks later. The third time I told the county officer I would shoot the dogs. The officer told the neighbors, and we haven't seen them since. The sheriff can be helpful.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00749022401144153527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-2697689523310606502010-04-06T17:42:13.995-05:002010-04-06T17:42:13.995-05:00I try hard to keep my animals where they belong, b...I try hard to keep my animals where they belong, but I admit we have an occasional escape. I do what I can to immediately fix the problem. With the understanding that accidents do happen, when my now neighbors hired a contractor to build their house directly across the road from me, the contractor thought it was okay to bring his dog with him. After his dog killed one chicken and injured a goose that became so depressed she died shortly afterwards, I told him to keep the dog off my property. That led to him opening gates, entering my house and all kinds of other illegal and immature behavior. The new neighbors thought I was mean when I threatened to shoot the dog (which I could never do) when I tried talking to them about it. Great way to start with your new neighbor, huh?Teresahttp://www.edenhills.blog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-50642167349701612802010-04-06T17:15:32.376-05:002010-04-06T17:15:32.376-05:00Very well written, Jennifer!
I couldn't agree ...Very well written, Jennifer!<br />I couldn't agree with you more.<br />Unfortunately, for those of us living in the country, it is something we must deal with.<br />One of my own dogs almost killed one of my horses by running it. I found a good home for it with a responsible family and all were happy.Twisted Fenceposthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15973165692768831966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-57218604847266695672010-04-06T15:57:24.315-05:002010-04-06T15:57:24.315-05:00This post needed to be written. I HAVE DOGS. I lov...This post needed to be written. I HAVE DOGS. I love my dogs but I would NEVER let them run loose. Freedom for dogs around here means death for them at the hands of my farming neighbors. <br />We farm owners who have animals that are at the mercy of predators will always shoot first and ask questions last. If a mountain lion or a coyote is attacking my chickens or goats, my husband will shoot and kill the attacker. It is the same with dogs that arrive and try to kill our animals. Dogs will join packs of dogs and go on hunts together. <br />It's just like a wolf pack and it's just as dangerous. <br />Folks think that their dogs are innocent of this behavior but it's survival of the fittest out there and my gun will trump a dog attacking my animals every time.farmladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10516462251842458511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-56195530437430485202010-04-06T14:40:34.513-05:002010-04-06T14:40:34.513-05:00I wish this could be printed on the front page of ...I wish this could be printed on the front page of every news paper! <br /><br />I am always grateful for the help you gave me when we were having neighbor dog trouble. It helped me to know how to handle the situation.Melodiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03795916460978775241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-67106127828969212832010-04-06T13:41:12.674-05:002010-04-06T13:41:12.674-05:00Jaz - Thanks for your comments and story! When I w...Jaz - Thanks for your comments and story! When I was searching for dogs attacking livestock news videos on YouTube I also came across so many really sad videos about larger dogs that are allowed to run loose and end up killing their neighbors smaller dogs and cats. So sad, and so needless! It is sad for the smaller dog and cat victims and just as sad for the larger dogs that end up euthanized or shot because of their own irresponsible owners. The animals both the one attacked and the attacking dog are the real victims of the loose dog owners stupidity. It is not that hard to keep a dog confined. Your quick thinking stopped a dog fight from happening, glad neither Teddy or the goofy loose dog got hurt!Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17664824920459341153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-58337438388682129402010-04-06T13:34:38.258-05:002010-04-06T13:34:38.258-05:00Pricilla - People like that are so frustrating to ...Pricilla - People like that are so frustrating to deal with. I wish I could understand how they think it is YOUR responsibility to keep their dog off your property. You are taking responsibility for your own animals by keeping them fenced in and on your own property. How would he feel if you let your goats run loose and they went over and completely ate his summer garden to which your only response would be it was HIS responsibility to keep them out of his garden? He sure wouldn't like it if the shoe was on the other foot.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17664824920459341153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-84458952991927171122010-04-06T13:18:54.540-05:002010-04-06T13:18:54.540-05:00i think that anyone that owns a dog and lets it ru...i think that anyone that owns a dog and lets it run free should be shot. if i had a dog bothering my animals i would capture it and turn it into a shelter. on our fall trip to rockport last year a free running dog came after teddy. i don't want to tell you about how a chow handles this. the dog was just goofy but you could see teddy's intentions in her eyes. this happened while my husband and daughter were walking teddy on a leash. i happened to be driving in their direction when i observed what was happening. i jumped from the car and went into action. first i tried to chase the dog away but this just became more of a game. teddy was becoming even more aggressive thinking that the dog might hurt me. i grabbed a towel out of the back of the car and threw it over the dogs head and then head locked the dog until teddy was safely in the car. that dog was never going to hurt teddy but teddy was seconds from ripping the dog apart, even on a leash. one trick to break animals apart when they are fighting is to grab them by the back legs and pull them apart and hang on to the legs until the situation is remedied. however, you obviously have to be there when it is happening. i am rambling but irresponsible owners really irk me!jaz@octoberfarmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17249328159454897124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-56571319329990511902010-04-06T11:55:15.591-05:002010-04-06T11:55:15.591-05:00Our neighbor has a golden retriever that he just l...Our neighbor has a golden retriever that he just lets run. It is in our yard constantly upsetting my goats. (His horses are over here all the time eating our hay so it gives you an idea of how he cares for his animals.) I have told him repeatedly that the dog is stressing the goats. That the goats don't like dogs and that they are scared by the dog and to keep the dog off my property.<br /><br />He has told me that it is MY problem and if I want the dog off I need to do it myself. My husband once killed a mouse with a .22<br /><br />I think I will share that story next.....<br /><br />And I grew up with dogs. My mother bred dachshunds and Great Danes. Not together, obviously...brokenteepeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06907414560986208401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6696462107978805035.post-20634144399558585682010-04-06T11:10:55.209-05:002010-04-06T11:10:55.209-05:00Thank you for your thoughts on this Kathie. I just...Thank you for your thoughts on this Kathie. I just wrote about dogs harming livestock, that does not even get into other people's dogs roaming at large that get into their neighbors trash, poop in their yard, and cause other kinds of damage. You are right it is the responsibility of the owners. <br /><br />Liz, I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your pygmy goat. Such a traumatic thing for a child to go through. Many of these dog owners don't realize the "livestock" their dogs kill are often a child's pet or 4h projects. I visited your blog and tried to leave a comment but I guess your layout is cutting off below the word verification, not allowing me to fill out the word verification and leave a comment. Hope you see this so you will know. You have a nice blog by the way!Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17664824920459341153noreply@blogger.com